[MCP] About the Rev. Jeremiah Wright

Sun Mar 23 01:10:19 EDT 2008

ok, correction some whites. i was mainly talking about in the usa; where there are few liberation theologists at least not in the parishes i've attended.

"McKevitt, Susan" <SMcKevitt at ed.state.nh.us> wrote:
        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}        st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                I would ask for a slight qualifier to the lead in sentence below, please.  How about “some” whites expect religion
etc. I for one think of liberation theologists who rightfully identify and loudly speak out about injustice framed within the context of their particular religious book of instruction, be it the Bible (which ever version one ascribes to) or the Torah or the Bhagavt Gita, etc. Plus, one must always remember that the media is controlled by 5 corporations whose self interest is in keeping us as divided as possible, downtrodden and depressed.  It’s a very effective pacification strategy.  That the MEDIA is hyping the disconnect does not necessarily mean it is representative of the opinions of the people.
  Thanks!

    Sue
  "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter"  Dr. Martin Luther King
  Susan McKevitt
  New Hampshire Department of Education
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  email: smckevitt at ed.state.nh.us

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  From: mcp-bounces at edchange.org [mailto:mcp-bounces at edchange.org] On Behalf Of chinatown_girl1
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [MCP] About the Rev. Jeremiah Wright

    it seems like whites expect religion to play the role of teaching us to "get along" and that means if u are a person of color, don't complain, work hard, focus on ur personal salvation and don't worry about things that are wrong because u will be rewarded in heaven or if ur a buddhist u will be rewarded in ur next life. 

    they get furious when religious leaders speak out about injustices here and now, cause there's a fear that if people start to believe that its morally right to fight against injustice, that places of worship are already organized and unified and able to make big change. there have been lots of uprisings in the world led by religious leaders and their followers. 

    maybe if the public rose up against jim jones the way they are analyzing obama's minister, there wouldnt have been that tragedy where he killed his followers.

    something else i noticed is that many whites describe minister jeremiah white as a "black preacher". it sounded disrespectful to me, but i don't know if theres a difference or not.

LaShawn Williams <Lashawn.Williams at slcc.edu> wrote:

        I think this is intriguing and all the more telling that some members of our white population don't want to see Obama as a "black" man, yet seem to feel like black folks are forcing Obama to choose via talking about his affiliation with a black minister. 

    I think the difficulty with issues like this is that it's okay for Bill Cosby to bash black people for their "failures"... whites will jump to his defense... yet if Rev. Wright uses Christianity as a way to empower blacks and to recognize the systems of power that whites have used to historically oppress blacks and others by providing a false sense of superiority for whites and inferiority for blacks and other ethnic minorities, it's not okay. What is Rev. Wright going to do to Obama that turns the country upside down? Make Obama work for blacks only? Give reparations? enforce affirmative action? clean up the ghettoes and provide decent housing? jobs? what's the underlying fear??? that's what I don't understand. 

    I've heard comparison that this is similar to the questioning Mitt Romney got about being LDS and how much of an influence his church would have on him, knowing the very few stances that the LDS church has taken on social issues such as race and sexual orientation.... maybe similar to JFK being asked about being Catholic? In a way, this isn't really about religion, though... it's still a cover for race by talking about Obama's "blackness" and his support or lack thereof of other blacks' via one church in one city in one state in the U.S. 

    It will be interesting to see how this pans out. Amazing how quickly the fear of a black person stating historical facts of oppression in a way that makes whites uncomfortable, causes this kind of backlash. I'm not sure who the "black leadership" of America is that Stephan is expecting to step up and defend Rev. Wright, though.... at least not any leader with any kind of credibility that will ease the fears whites are expressing without realizing it. Jackson and Sharpton seem to be pretty tuned out of white america's ears... aren't they seen as "race baiters"?

    other thoughts?

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    From: mcp-bounces at edchange.org on behalf of John Lindsay
Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 4:10 PM
To: McPavilion; awp_project at yahoogroups.com; sarn; SpeakingOutAgainstRacism at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MCP] About the Rev. Jeremiah Wright

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From: "Stephan Broadus" <stephan.broadus at gmail.com> 
Subject: About the Rev. Jeremiah Wright 
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:21:31 +0000

    I’m extremely disappointed that Black Leadership around the country has allowed the media to smear this brother without uttering a word in his defense. Have we become so brainwashed, afraid for our jobs, or comfortable that we have forgotten where we come from? Does hearing the truth bring back too many painful memories because we believe we have risen above all of that? I personally can’t find anything wrong with what I have heard on the videos and sound bites that have been playing on every TV and radio station around the clock the last few days; and if I had been in Brother Wright’s congregation listening to those sermons, I would have been giving him a standing ovation too! We all know that Sen. Obama is being forced to condemn a man that he loves and respects. And if he could do so without torpedoing his campaign, he would tell America the truth. I’m sorry America is shocked by Rev. Wright’s words but if the shoe fits

....?     Stephan

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