[MCP] what can be done?

Wed Apr 4 12:33:51 EDT 2007

When all is said an done if one looks at the news you
hear about a shooting or robery that killed someone
everday in new york. when you watch the news in other
states ex: Cali you hear about foreset fires but not
shootings. the problem in NEw York is that children
hear and see, all  of the violenece around them and
feel that this is what life is like on a daily basis,
so they react the way any person would and walk the
streets with a weapon or like they are "hard core
people" that are untouchable. How do we give theses
students and children a safer enviornmet if this is
what they go home to or live around?
Sharon Habaibeh 
--- Jimmy Liu <macrowave at hotmail.com> wrote:

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Throwing money at problems does not fix the core
issues.  There are plenty of people who have won the
lottery only to be broke in a short amount of time
again.  It certainly  is the mentality of the people. 
In the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad it discusses the
difference between an upper class and lower class
mentality.  Upper class parents teach their children
how to plan for the future while lower class tends to
teach their children to live for the moment. 
Something simple like teaching children the value of
different things can make a difference.  I've seen
many poor neighborhoods with many nice cars (BMW,
Mercedes, Lexus).  As we all know cars are not an
investment once you purchase it the value immediately
drops.  So instead of investing the money in something
that will make a return, many of these families, who
has little, tries to make things look better than they
are by purchasing a nice car or expensive clothing. It
is this mentality that keeps the poor poor.  It can
certainly be hard for lower classes to think long term
since the crime in most of these areas is rampant. 
How do you study or plan for the future when people
get shot everyday?  So maybe we should create the safe
environment first such as use the extra money on
protecting the neighborhood then can we actually teach
them the importance of education.    

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From:  "chad robinson" <crob492 at hotmail.com>
Reply-To:  "Multicultural Pavilion's discussion group
on equity, social justice,and multicultural
education." <mcp at edchange.org>
To:  mcp at edchange.org
Subject:  Re: [MCP] Blaming the poor for their plight
Date:  Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:41:37 -0400
>The problem of resources is just one side of the
problem.  South Carolina
>put 1 billion dollars into their failing school
system and it didn't make a
>difference in the scores and attendance.  The problem
seems to be in the
>minds of the students and familiies.  There are more
than enough books and
>resources available to most young people in this day
and age, but what is
>missing is the desire.  I do not believe the majority
of students have
>confidence in this sysytem that they know is working
against them.  Many of
>them have a defeatus attitude before they try
anything.  Success is not what
>they are used to.  One must change the attitude of
what education means to
>their future and make it valid.  The poor can not be
made to think they are
>in a caste system in America.  America must be the
place people dream about
>becoming successful whether they are abroad or born
in the U.S.  Many
>immigrants find success in America before natural
born Americans.  What do
>they have that allows them to succeed?
>
>
> >From: "Barbara J. Love" <bjlove13 at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: "Multicultural Pavilion's discussion
group on equity, social
> >justice,and multicultural education."
<mcp at edchange.org>
> >To: "Multicultural Pavilion's discussion group on
equity, social
> >justice,and multicultural education."
<mcp at edchange.org>
> >Subject: Re: [MCP] Blaming the poor for their
plight
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:09:24 -0400
> >
> >We have the record of what happened in
Massachusetts on this question:
> >
> >"We asked a psychologist, a philosopher and a
sociologist to tell us how
> >they
> >would begin to think about the question of shifting
some school aid from
> >wealthier to poorer districts."
> >
> >
> >The Education Reform Act ( which also mandated
passing MCAS as a
> >graduation requirement) stipulated just that -
> >the shifting of  additional State aid to poorer
school districts.
> >
> >The parents and superintendents from the wealthier
districts complained
> >to their legislators.
> >The formula was revised.
> >No more sending differential aid to poorer school
districts.
> >
> >Though the aid formulas were changed, the MCAS
graduation requirement
> >remains in place.
> >
> >Barbara Love
> >Former Chair of the Amherst, Massachusetts School
Committee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Paul C.Gorski wrote:
> > > --------------------
> > > Blaming the poor for their plight
> > > --------------------
> > >
> > > Amy Stuart Wells
> > > Professor of sociology and education at Teachers
College, Columbia
> > > University
> > >
> > > March 25, 2007
> > >
> > > Starting the conversation
> > >
> > > We asked a psychologist, a philosopher and a
sociologist to tell us how
> >they
> > > would begin to think about the question of
shifting some school aid from
> > > wealthier to poorer districts. They will
continue their discussion
> >online,
> > > and you-re invited to submit questions and
comments for the discussion
> >to
> > > www.newsday .com/viewpoints by 8 p.m. tomorrow.
> > >
> > > For 30 years, some influential social
scientists, pundits and
> >policy-makers
> > > in this country have spent a great deal of time
trying to convince us
> >that
> > > the only people to blame for poverty and
inequality in the United States
> >are
> > > the poor themselves. It is their lack of work
ethic, their lame
> >parenting
> > > and their unwillingness to value education as
much as those who are more
> > > successful economically. In short, it is the
poor people's culture of
> > > poverty that has led to our current situation of
record-breaking income
> >and
> > > wealth inequality. Thus, any effort on the part
of the government to
> >correct
> > > this inequality - e.g., collecting more taxes
from the rich or
> >supporting
> > > more programs for the poor - is seen as immoral
and fundamentally unfair
> >to
> > > the hardworking middle-class.
> > >
> > > Well, if global warming is an "inconvenient
truth," as our former vice
> > > president says, then this ideology of inequality
is an extremely
> >"convenient
> > > lie." It allows those of us who have access to
adequate housing, food,
> > > clothing and - most important - good schools for
our children to feel OK
> > > about the fact that millions of people in this
country do not. While
> >there
> > > are, no doubt, some lazy poor people, and not
all poor parents are
> >exemplary
> > > - the same could be said of many affluent people
I know. Nor is there
> >any
> > > evidence that poor families value education any
less than middle class
> >or
> > > rich families - they are simply more frustrated
about what kinds of
> >schools
> > > and curricula they able to access.
> > >
> > > Indeed, what makes people poor is their lack of
access to decent paying
> >jobs
> > > in a service economy that pays well-educated and
well-connected
> > > professionals extremely well and pays people
with less formal education
> >next
> > > to nothing - not to mention their lack of
benefits, most importantly
> >health
> > > care. What keeps people poor is the growing
segregation between the rich
> >or
> > > well-off in terms of where people live and send
their children to
> >school. As
> > > income gaps have grown and housing prices have
exploded, people with
> >money
> > > have been able to move farther away from those
without. The exclusivity
> >of
> > > these communities, protected by zoning
ordinances, is the very factor
> >that
> > > sends their property values even higher, making
their residents and
> >public
> > > schools wealthier still.
> > >
> > > What the State of New York is trying to do this
year with its public
> >school
> > > funding is but a small effort to re-adjust and
correct this worsening
> > > inequality - a scenario in which the rich really
do get richer and the
> >poor
> > > either tread water or drown. We can ignore the
facts that those of us
> >who
> > > are well-off became so with the aid of many
government "programs" that
> >have
> > > allowed the economy and the housing market to
develop this way. We can
> >tell
> > > ourselves that we are superior in our values and
work ethic to the poor
> >and
> > > thus our children deserve a better education
than poor children do. But
> >such
> > > an argument would not be grounded in truth or
evidence and, if taken to
> >its
> > > logical conclusion and used as an excuse for
ignoring the inequality in
> >our
> > > midst, will signal the demise of our democracy
and the American Dream.
> > >
> > > Copyright (c) 2007, Newsday, Inc.
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > >
> > > This article originally appeared at:
> > >
>
>http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpwel245143648mar25,0,3641224.story?c
> > > oll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
> > >
> > > Visit Newsday online at http://www.newsday.com.
> > >
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